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Capitalism is a system designed by the owning class (i'll add ~60% of us are "owners") to exploit the rest of us for their own profit. We must replace it with democratic socialism, a system where ordinary people have a real voice in our workplaces, neighborhoods, and society.
We believe there are many avenues that feed into the democratic road to socialism. Our vision pushes further than historic social democracy and leaves behind authoritarian visions of socialism in the dustbin of history.
We want a democracy that creates space for us all to flourish not just survive and answers the fundamental questions of our lives with the input of all. We want to collectively own the key economic drivers that dominate our lives, such as energy production and transportation. We want the multiracial working class united in solidarity instead of divided by fear. We want to win âradicalâ reforms like single-payer Medicare for All, defunding the police/refunding communities, the Green New Deal, and more as a transition to a freer, more just life.
We want a democracy powered by everyday people. The capitalist class tells us we are powerless, but together we can take back control.
I do like the idea of more coop and ESOP ownerships, especially in essential industries like food, health, defense...
Probably the most succinct explanation of DSA "ideology" I've heard. Nice work!
Notice how there was not a peep about COMMIES until recently. It's like the GOP sat in a smoke filled room with nothing but old white men and asked "what can we say now to deflect from the obvious hole we've dug ourselves into?"
I think that gives too much credit to old white men surrounding Trump.
The Dems make it so easy. First there was Mumdani, and then a few primary wins for the Dem Socialists...and all of the sudden the world is ending. Again. This time we mean it. Really. It's the end of America as we know it.
It's laughable that Bessent was blaming Biden for inflation and oil prices yesterday, but if you can still get a large group of people to believe it... use it.
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Sep 3, 2026 - 7:19am
VV wrote:
Yea, taken over by Commies.
Notice how there was not a peep about COMMIES until recently. It's like the GOP sat in a smoke filled room with nothing but old white men and asked "what can we say now to deflect from the obvious hole we've dug ourselves into?"
"Commies! It worked before so let's do it again. They'll never be able to get the distinction between that and Socialism, because we made sure that their schooling was shit and their 'news' is in our pocket."
"Harumph"
"Harumph"
"Harumph"
...
"Give The President of the United States, honorable Donald J Trump, who is an excellent golfer and a real ladies' man and a business genius and has the best words and passes tests that other presidents weren't allowed to take and is smarter than all of us combined, a 'harumph'!"
Yea, taken over by Commies.
Stop please⦠yer killinâ me.
As predicted, he swallowed the desperate GOP attack meme, hook, line and sinker. Must be horrible to go through life missing any capacity for self honesty and critical thinking skills.
I hope everyone you know has food, affordable health care, a reasonably paying job, and the right to vote.
In the past, Republicans didnât want Barack HUSSEIN Obama to do these repairs because of the waste of funds. What say you now, libertarians and real republicans?
Must be hard to find a bowling alley contractor who specializes in that sort of thing, so hire someone who is already doing millions for the administration without a bidding process. (/sarcasm)
Maybe he can fix the reflecting pool while he's there.
I hope everyone you know has food, affordable health care, a reasonably paying job, and the right to vote.
In the past, Republicans didnât want Barack HUSSEIN Obama to do these repairs because of the waste of funds. What say you now, libertarians and real republicans?
Two Tuesdays ago is when I last posted. You asked me about why I didn't respond to a post that had a bogus headline after I responded to the bogus headline instead. Why would I give any credence to a bogus headline by reading the attached article ? But that is your standard, not mine.
My silence is proof of nothing other than I have been really, really busy in meat space and you all here have nothing new to say. Same old stuff. Rinse, repeat.
Trump is the most evil person to have ever lived is the message. Given the choice between voting for Hitler or Trump everyone of you would vote for Hitler. That is all that you all have to offer anymore. Meanwhile as you all focus on Trump your alternative, the DNC party machine has been taken over by the Commies. And you all will knowingly vote for commies before you would vote for anything remotely favorable to Trump and anything MAGA.
Go ahead, tell me I'm wrong.
Yea, taken over by Commies.
Stop please⦠yer killinâ me.
By this measurement, if all Democratic Socialists are Communists, then all MAGA are Pedophile Fascists. Trump refuses to rule out Military presence at the polls this November.
The definition is clear: anyone who uses the Military to control or govern a population is a Fascist.
Masked armed citizens shooting into homes and cars, injuring and killing people. Entry into a war at Billion$-a-day. ICE and pardoned Militia groups at election polls. Threats. Intimidation. Fear.
Fascism is what's on Donald Trump's Ballroom Menu.
The circular argument is yours. The burden of proof on allegations that these Democratic Socialists are Communists resides with those making the allegations. It is not incumbent upon a Democratic Socialist to prove he or she is not a Communist. That would be akin to asking him or her to prove a negative.
It's more than that. There is plenty of evidence that they are not communists.
As a thought experiment, progressive start meeting up with people involved with the Democratic National Committee, one of the two main parties in the US. A party with a long history of not being communist that, if anything has shifted to the right under the past few Democrat administration. Now these people get involved with the more progressive wing of the party and somehow are let in on the imagined secret that the whole party is actually communist. And now, not one of those people says, "Wait a minute, I'm not communist. I just want a republic where poor and working people get a fair shake." Utter bullshit to think this sort of secret communism could be hidden and not get out.
Location: Perched on the precipice of the cauldron of truth
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Sep 1, 2026 - 8:16pm
kurtster wrote:
They say they are not and you believe them, right ? That they do not openly identify as such does not mean that they are not.
I guess that I need to go away again. Same old circular arguments in progress, not that they ever stopped ...
The circular argument is yours. The burden of proof on allegations that these Democratic Socialists are Communists resides with those making the allegations. It is not incumbent upon a Democratic Socialist to prove he or she is not a Communist. That would be akin to asking him or her to prove a negative.
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Sep 1, 2026 - 1:00pm
"Well, now that I've had a son with Melania, she's not my type. I've done this a few times and I'm the best at it. Everyone says so. So I'm just using my standard playbook - cheating on my current wife with a younger hottie. They let you do pretty much anything to them, you know, once you're famous. And I'm president and the most powerful man in the world!
Like god, I can rename entire bodies of water at a whim! Can YOU do that? Of course not. You're a low IQ individual, so get out of here. You're ugly. Quiet, piggy!
And if I catch you anywhere near a voting booth I'll have my hooded - I mean, masked - buddies in the Proud Bo... - I mean ICEdeporting your ass before you can call for help. Where's Miller? He'll deal with you."
-donald j trump, speaking on FoxNEWS-
(I figure we're all just making shit up now, right? We've left rational discussion way behind us, because of Biden and Commies and Obama and HER EMAILS.)
âYou know, they donât SAY theyâre Communists, but they have that look you know? And, while weâre at it, they also look like puppy rapers. I mean, they donât come out and say it but we know, donât we? And I shouldnât be saying this, but I donât think they were born in the USA. Whereâs their long form birth certificate? Oh, theyâre using it to wipe off the babyâs blood and adenochrome thatâs dribbling down their chin! They deserve the death penalty. You wonât see that in the lame stream media, but the shortwave radio stations will give you all the truth. Just listen! Everyone of them is saying itâ
âYou know, they donât SAY theyâre Communists, but they have that look you know? And, while weâre at it, they also look like puppy rapers. I mean, they donât come out and say it but we know, donât we? And I shouldnât be saying this, but I donât think they were born in the USA. Whereâs their long form birth certificate? Oh, theyâre using it to wipe off the babyâs blood and adenochrome thatâs dribbling down their chin! They deserve the death penalty. You wonât see that in the lame stream media, but the shortwave radio stations will give you all the truth. Just listen! Everyone of them is saying itâ
