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Jun 30, 2026 - 11:41am
black321 wrote:
no thats annual, eg, NY/SUNY is about $10K tuition, UC Boulder $14K and
Ah, I'm also keeping in mind that tuition is not the only expense - there are fees, housing (whether on campus or off), books, lab supplies, food, etc. - all of which can (and should) be covered by student loans (basically whatever is needed to reasonably sustain the person while in attendance). That's what doubles it (or more, depending on the location).
I imagine it varies by state. UNC Chapel Hill (the 'flagship' school) is about $10K per academic year for in-state resident undergrads, but the cost of living (especially rent) is relatively high in the area, so living expenses are also high. Other state schools in the UNC system are about $5K per year. Tuition for out-of-state students is much higher as is most grad school of course.
UNC is less than all of the flagships in the Big Ten...which range from $11k (Nebraska) to $21k (Penn State). What you find when you start doing the math, is that there are a lot of other expenses that go into it. If you look at Rutgers, students pay $1,550 per semester for "fees". A large amount of those fees are going to the athletic department, who are paying players NIL and losing money hand over fist. Millions and millions in coaching salaries, millions for the athletes, and many of those students will be paying for the fees for a decade+?
I don't support free. I think students need to qualify, and need to have some skin in the game... but right now it's just too expensive and too random.
There is also a cottage industry around applications for aid that isn't going to die without a fight.
He said in Europe, that's per year. What you're looking at is per semester, so double it (or almost triple, if including summer semesters) in the US.
I imagine it varies by state. UNC Chapel Hill (the 'flagship' school) is about $10K per academic year for in-state resident undergrads, but the cost of living (especially rent) is relatively high in the area, so living expenses are also high. Other state schools in the UNC system are about $5K per year. Tuition for out-of-state students is much higher as is most grad school of course.
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Jun 30, 2026 - 10:34am
black321 wrote:
most state school tuition is $10-$15K, which is still a lot for many families...but with some savings, working while at school, possible scholarships and loans, its doable.
He said in Europe, that's per year. What you're looking at is per semester, so double it (or almost triple, if including summer semesters) in the US.
The policy itself isn't wrong, so much as the ignorance of growing talent and providing opportunity. The government should make education affordable, and eliminate the need for loans, but that would require paying for it, which would require taxes, which the Right will sell as socialism. The base will be told they are paying for everyone else to go to college, making everyone over 30 believe they are going to be taxed for things "they paid for back in the day... and that's not fair".
Highly selective schools with large endowments (Yale, Princeton, Swarthmore) are now committing to free tuition when the family income is below $200k/$250k, but that should available to kids who perform well in high school and are willing to attend their state flagship. In Europe it costs $5k-$10k per year for tuition. Should be the same here. No loans.
most state school tuition is $10-$15K, which is still a lot for many families...but with some savings, working while at school, possible scholarships and loans, its doable.
The caps are intended to curb the cost of access to higher education...
This seems more likely.
The policy itself isn't wrong, so much as the ignorance of growing talent and providing opportunity. The government should make education affordable, and eliminate the need for loans, but that would require paying for it, which would require taxes, which the Right will sell as socialism. The base will be told they are paying for everyone else to go to college, making everyone over 30 believe they are going to be taxed for things "they paid for back in the day... and that's not fair".
Highly selective schools with large endowments (Yale, Princeton, Swarthmore) are now committing to free tuition when the family income is below $200k/$250k, but that should available to kids who perform well in high school and are willing to attend their state flagship. In Europe it costs $5k-$10k per year for tuition. Should be the same here. No loans.
From the (OBBA) bill that just keeps giving, like the fruit of the month club.
Something needs to be done to address the out of control student debt but capping federal loans isnt it. Seems to target those already struggling.
Starting July 1, the amount of money graduate students will be allowed to borrow from the federal government will be capped. The new student loan limits are part of the GOPâs tax-and-spending legislation known as the One Big Beautiful Bill Act, which President Donald Trump signed into law last year.
The caps are intended to curb the cost of higher education and student loan debt, according to the Trump administration.
But critics widely agree the new limits are too low, especially for students allowed to borrow only $20,500 a year in federal loans due to the lawâs controversial definition of a âprofessional degree.â On June 24, a federal judge temporarily blocked the Department of Education from enforcing that definition. Still, for many students, the new caps wonât cover the combined cost of tuition, housing, and living expenses.
This could leave hundreds of thousands of students who borrow money for graduate school each year at the mercy of private lenders with higher interest rates and fewer repayment options.
